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 on: December 28, 2006, 10:46:06 PM 
Started by MrsD820 - Last post by SteveD
I�m not going to be popular, but I think MrsD820 is being hypocritical.

You close by saying how easy it is to conform to society and how hard yet worthwhile it is to stand firm in ones beliefs, yet you open by mentioning how much you admire the Hijab for making your day easier.

You�re not alone in this sort of philosophy. Take Goths for example (kids who dress up in black cloths and makeup). They flatter themselves by thinking they are better for setting themselves apart from the masses (when all they really want is attention). Ultimately it�s weak thinking because it�s the sort of philosophy that only exists to make us feel good about ourselves.

The question you have to ask yourself is this; why do you need to hide behind a headscarf to stand up for your principals? Why can�t you ware normal plain cloths, little makeup and adopt a less fashionable haircut that takes less time?

Ego is never as far away as you might think.

I must admit I�ve never read the parts of the Koran that speak of the woman�s need to ware a headscarf, but I�m fairly certain fashion isn�t mentioned.

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 on: December 22, 2006, 12:43:48 PM 
Started by MrsD820 - Last post by ugo
I agree with MrsD820.

Try telling a muslim guy his mother or grandmother in hijab is inferior to him...

Reading this article 'In the Motions of the Winds', online at: http://inthemotions.tripod.com , I could sense the feeling that most of the criticisms against the hijab might actually stem from men (no offense guys, I'm a guy too).
The author of the article 'In the Motions of the Winds' looked at verses from the muslim Holy Book which declared both men and women to be equal creations in the sight of their Creator even with their physical differences. They both were equally 'covered' at some time (didn't know about their 'nakedness') until events affected them both exposing their nakedness. He supports the hijab because

- even without Islam, many cultures around the world tend to respect women who dress well-covered (even with the images of bare-chested African girls in people's minds, one has to think about the older respected women in such communities)

- people find hairy men okay, but hairy women are not and don't appear to share the same 'equality' with less hairy women (who determines women's equality with men - men?!)

I began to wonder, why is it when we talk about women being equal to men the image of women in trousers and so on pops into our minds as a form of women's liberation? Women RAISING themslves to the same level as men.
Do men set the standards even for clothing? Why doesn't equality involve men wearing the clothes women put on (and I'm not talking about kilts!)? Could it be that would mean LOWERING themselves to the same level as women?

I got so interested I decided to look for a scientifc explanation to why men tend to be hairier than women.
I had already read that millions of years ago women were also hairy, so what happened? Quite a difficult question to find an answer to online, here's some of what I found though:
http://evolution-101.blogspot.com/
http://www.serpentfd.org/b/darwin.html
http://www.riinsrants.info/culture/girls.htm

I remember hearing that scientists had a theory that women evolved to be less hairy than men because men found less hairy women more attractive than the hairy ones and began breeding only with the less hairy ones. So male offspring would still have the 'hairy genes' while the female ones gradually lost it.
So men bred more naked women for their own purposes? Men determine what women should look like?
Is this a man's world?

In conclusion, I say
- hey, all you muslim in hijabs, YOU'RE NOT INFERIOR TO MEN (some men are just upset that you're covered up)

- the hijab is okay

- you guys should read that article on http://inthemotions.tripod.com


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